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	<description>Wild romances, foolish chances</description>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://eithin.com/cirw/2010/02/17/chronicles-of-an-age-of-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-18718</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 14:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the first 5 or 6 of these as a young man when they first came out and loved them, I then read a few more over the years, perhaps reading the 9th book 15 years ago! I thought i had read them all but recently finished Steven Eriksons 10 book Malazan epic which got me thinking of Mr Cook.  I was delighted to see that I have not read Witchlord and Weapon master and am currently enjoying it a great deal.  I have forgotten a great deal of the detail but am really enjoying the book.  I am tempted to read all 10 again but not sure if I have the time.

 I was genuinley sad to read that Cook had passed away.  These books have always been the benchmark for other fantasy reading for me, funny, inelligent, satirical and sometimes just plain daft, I loved them.  Great imagination, definately deserved a larger readeship and a greater online legacy.  Only recently  found out that he had a 60 book plan!  Great man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the first 5 or 6 of these as a young man when they first came out and loved them, I then read a few more over the years, perhaps reading the 9th book 15 years ago! I thought i had read them all but recently finished Steven Eriksons 10 book Malazan epic which got me thinking of Mr Cook.  I was delighted to see that I have not read Witchlord and Weapon master and am currently enjoying it a great deal.  I have forgotten a great deal of the detail but am really enjoying the book.  I am tempted to read all 10 again but not sure if I have the time.</p>
<p> I was genuinley sad to read that Cook had passed away.  These books have always been the benchmark for other fantasy reading for me, funny, inelligent, satirical and sometimes just plain daft, I loved them.  Great imagination, definately deserved a larger readeship and a greater online legacy.  Only recently  found out that he had a 60 book plan!  Great man.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 18:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read a few of these when I was a teen, and had fond memories of them.  I&#039;ve recently started reading them again, in order - although in truth I&#039;ve just finished #2, and currently only own #1 - #4.  I wish the online versions were PDF, rather than a collection of HTML pages, but I may try to resolve that myself.

What fascinates me most with Cook&#039;s writing is his knack of totally disregarding a major plot line.  Just as you think he is going to send you down one road he turns 450° and sends you somewhere completely different.  One example that springs to mind is the trek to retrieve a death stone in the Wizards and the Warriors, which takes an age to get them to their destination, but a moment for them to find it already recovered in a dead soldiers pack.  I was expecting a few chapters on its recovery!  His use of (made-up) language also appeals to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read a few of these when I was a teen, and had fond memories of them.  I&#8217;ve recently started reading them again, in order &#8211; although in truth I&#8217;ve just finished #2, and currently only own #1 &#8211; #4.  I wish the online versions were PDF, rather than a collection of HTML pages, but I may try to resolve that myself.</p>
<p>What fascinates me most with Cook&#8217;s writing is his knack of totally disregarding a major plot line.  Just as you think he is going to send you down one road he turns 450° and sends you somewhere completely different.  One example that springs to mind is the trek to retrieve a death stone in the Wizards and the Warriors, which takes an age to get them to their destination, but a moment for them to find it already recovered in a dead soldiers pack.  I was expecting a few chapters on its recovery!  His use of (made-up) language also appeals to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 09:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your comments - I&#039;m really pleased to have introduced another intelligent reader to these books, and I&#039;m glad you found the whole set.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your comments &#8211; I&#8217;m really pleased to have introduced another intelligent reader to these books, and I&#8217;m glad you found the whole set.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2011 13:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m back, and I&#039;ve just finished the series.

They are very messy. This is usually a good thing, although I felt The Witchlord and the Weaponmaster was too long and rambling, which is odd as The Walrus and the Warwolf is my favourite.

I really liked The Werewolf and the Wormlord - it had an interesting political plot, and fantasy motifs being skewered, and a humane ending. I really enjoyed The Women and the Warlords, for much the same reasons as you, I think, but The Wicked and the Witless and The Worshippers and the Way were overall merely okay. (Although the scene with Hatch arguing with Penelope in the bath was probably the funniest scene in the whole series, after the cockroach stew.)

It&#039;s surprising how many of them are essentially novels of politics rather than adventure - I&#039;d say a 6/4 split, very unusual in sword and sorcery - and there are lots of cliffhanger endings, although they&#039;re the sort that resolve the plot as well.

Incidentally, I found a whole set, mostly via eBay, so they&#039;re difficult rather than impossible to find. Again - thanks for the recommendation - I enjoyed them a lot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m back, and I&#8217;ve just finished the series.</p>
<p>They are very messy. This is usually a good thing, although I felt The Witchlord and the Weaponmaster was too long and rambling, which is odd as The Walrus and the Warwolf is my favourite.</p>
<p>I really liked The Werewolf and the Wormlord &#8211; it had an interesting political plot, and fantasy motifs being skewered, and a humane ending. I really enjoyed The Women and the Warlords, for much the same reasons as you, I think, but The Wicked and the Witless and The Worshippers and the Way were overall merely okay. (Although the scene with Hatch arguing with Penelope in the bath was probably the funniest scene in the whole series, after the cockroach stew.)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s surprising how many of them are essentially novels of politics rather than adventure &#8211; I&#8217;d say a 6/4 split, very unusual in sword and sorcery &#8211; and there are lots of cliffhanger endings, although they&#8217;re the sort that resolve the plot as well.</p>
<p>Incidentally, I found a whole set, mostly via eBay, so they&#8217;re difficult rather than impossible to find. Again &#8211; thanks for the recommendation &#8211; I enjoyed them a lot!</p>
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		<title>By: Gareth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gareth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 19:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are 3 of the books published in their entirety as well as a lot of his other writings on Hugh Cook&#039;s Website.

http://www.zenvirus.com

I found an ebook of the Witchlord and the Weaponmaster  on an obscure torrent site but it has been altered. For example, when Thodric Jarl defeats Guest during their first fight, instead of urinating on Guest, he spits on him. Similarly, there is a scene where Onosh Gulkin throws Glambrax some left over food. In the original text, Glambrax celebrates by pretending to rape his trophy. In the ebook he  juggles it. 

It no longer has the impact of the original text. 

If (as I suspect) the text was altered to make the books less crude/offensive for the American market, it goes a long way towards explaining the poor sales performance. It&#039;s s real pity as Cook was an exceptionally creative and talented author who deserved much more recognition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are 3 of the books published in their entirety as well as a lot of his other writings on Hugh Cook&#8217;s Website.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.zenvirus.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.zenvirus.com</a></p>
<p>I found an ebook of the Witchlord and the Weaponmaster  on an obscure torrent site but it has been altered. For example, when Thodric Jarl defeats Guest during their first fight, instead of urinating on Guest, he spits on him. Similarly, there is a scene where Onosh Gulkin throws Glambrax some left over food. In the original text, Glambrax celebrates by pretending to rape his trophy. In the ebook he  juggles it. </p>
<p>It no longer has the impact of the original text. </p>
<p>If (as I suspect) the text was altered to make the books less crude/offensive for the American market, it goes a long way towards explaining the poor sales performance. It&#8217;s s real pity as Cook was an exceptionally creative and talented author who deserved much more recognition.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2010 18:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think there is, to be honest - I have no idea who currently owns the rights to most of them. It might be worth shooting Paizo an email to ask, and/or using the contact address on the official site, but I don&#039;t even know how active that is.

If you do find some, please let me know!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think there is, to be honest &#8211; I have no idea who currently owns the rights to most of them. It might be worth shooting Paizo an email to ask, and/or using the contact address on the official site, but I don&#8217;t even know how active that is.</p>
<p>If you do find some, please let me know!</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2010 17:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there anywhere I can buy this series in epub or pdf form?  I just got myself an ebook reader and would love to read this series again.  I owned some of the first books, years ago, but cannot seem to find any electronic versions.  Any advice would be appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there anywhere I can buy this series in epub or pdf form?  I just got myself an ebook reader and would love to read this series again.  I owned some of the first books, years ago, but cannot seem to find any electronic versions.  Any advice would be appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re entirely welcome, and I&#039;m glad to hear about your reactions - I was trying to put myself in a first-time reader&#039;s shoes, but of course it&#039;s hard.  

I wish someone would reissue them all - I think they&#039;d do much better now than they did originally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re entirely welcome, and I&#8217;m glad to hear about your reactions &#8211; I was trying to put myself in a first-time reader&#8217;s shoes, but of course it&#8217;s hard.  </p>
<p>I wish someone would reissue them all &#8211; I think they&#8217;d do much better now than they did originally.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 14:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting your entry on Hugh Cook&#039;s Age of Darkness novels. I came here by the Tor.com comment where you linked to it. I&#039;ve since read five of them and am looking out for the rest. Although you recommended starting with The Walrus and the Warwolf, that was actually the fourth I read, but I probably enjoyed it the most. It does its own thing so brazenly and unselfconsciously that it swept me along, and I have a weakness for strangely-shaped plots. I can see why they apparently sold so poorly when they were first published - I can&#039;t imagine most people enjoying them. 

Actually, they&#039;re pretty fantastic compared to most fantasy, in the sense of being strange and self-absorbed. Strange plots and random occurrences, wide ranges of locations, characters, and events, the way events are portrayed in different books, the political anarchy - not just lack of an single ruler, but the way characters go from being nobodies to major figures, the lack of respect for any kind of authority and discrimination - I think they were at least partly written against most fantasy novels. In fact, you could almost call them realistic, if it wasn&#039;t for the demons, death-stones, giant magical hermit crabs, baby suns, weird monsters, and walking mountains.

The ones I&#039;ve read so far are (in order) numbers 2, 6, 7, 4 and 1. One of the big pleasures is trying to work out what&#039;s going to happen in the current book based on the already-read books - wondering when the Swarms would invade in book 1, or realising that 6 and 7 were set years before the others, or Draven and Togura&#039;s different showings in 2 and 4. I can&#039;t wait to find out what happens in the other books, especially with regards to the Swarms&#039; invasion, though I have a sneaking feeling that nothing might...

Thanks for the recommendation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting your entry on Hugh Cook&#8217;s Age of Darkness novels. I came here by the Tor.com comment where you linked to it. I&#8217;ve since read five of them and am looking out for the rest. Although you recommended starting with The Walrus and the Warwolf, that was actually the fourth I read, but I probably enjoyed it the most. It does its own thing so brazenly and unselfconsciously that it swept me along, and I have a weakness for strangely-shaped plots. I can see why they apparently sold so poorly when they were first published &#8211; I can&#8217;t imagine most people enjoying them. </p>
<p>Actually, they&#8217;re pretty fantastic compared to most fantasy, in the sense of being strange and self-absorbed. Strange plots and random occurrences, wide ranges of locations, characters, and events, the way events are portrayed in different books, the political anarchy &#8211; not just lack of an single ruler, but the way characters go from being nobodies to major figures, the lack of respect for any kind of authority and discrimination &#8211; I think they were at least partly written against most fantasy novels. In fact, you could almost call them realistic, if it wasn&#8217;t for the demons, death-stones, giant magical hermit crabs, baby suns, weird monsters, and walking mountains.</p>
<p>The ones I&#8217;ve read so far are (in order) numbers 2, 6, 7, 4 and 1. One of the big pleasures is trying to work out what&#8217;s going to happen in the current book based on the already-read books &#8211; wondering when the Swarms would invade in book 1, or realising that 6 and 7 were set years before the others, or Draven and Togura&#8217;s different showings in 2 and 4. I can&#8217;t wait to find out what happens in the other books, especially with regards to the Swarms&#8217; invasion, though I have a sneaking feeling that nothing might&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks for the recommendation!</p>
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